C’est dans un centre dédié à la formation des pilotes de ligne, à Roissy-CDG, que Full Flight Simulator offre la possibilité de prendre les commandes d’un simulateur de vol mobile. © Full Flight Simulator
Full Flight Simulator est une jeune société autrement dit une start up créée par des pilotes de lignes. Sa raison d'être est de permettre aux passionnés de piloter un avion commercial à bord d’un simulateur full flight (Level D), dans un environnement professionnel.
Full Flight Simulator propose non seulement l’opportunité unique pour un amateur ou un pilote privé de ressentir les sensations de piloter un avion de ligne, il offre aussi une occasion exceptionnelle de s’immerger dans ce milieu. En effet, ces sept simulateurs A330, A340, 757, 767, 737CL, 737NG et Fokker 100. implantés dans la zone aéroportuaire de Paris-CDG, sont avant tout utilisés par des compagnies aériennes pour former leurs propres pilotes. Ils fonctionnent 24 heures...
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Pour moi c’est le top en terme d’expérience de pilotage
L’instructeur Laurent est très abordable et pro
Magnifique moment qui passe toujours très vite
C’est vraiment un beau cadeau à faire pour les passionnés d’aviation comme moi qui ont loupé sup aerospace !!! Un ingénieur
Bonne initiative. Mais , a ce jour, reticence de la part des dirigeants a répondre aux emails leur posant des questions…sur une utilisation pour valider ou infirmer des doutes: On 04 Mar 2017, at 15:44, Adam Shaw wrote:
Hello:
Carte sur table pour ne pas perdre votre, et mon, temps.
Pilote Instructeur/Voltige, et ex-journaliste/écrivain, il y a quelques années j’avais demandé à British Airways la possibilité de faire un vol dans leur full motion sim. avec une mise en situation a l’ouest de Washington DC.
Ils on dit “no problem.”
Avant de virer un acompte pour la séance de simu, et de réserver un aller-retour Genève-Londres, je leur ai demandé de confirmer qu’il me laisserait piloter sans reset ou blocage jusqu’au poser.
Encore une un fois ils on dit “affirmatif.”
Quand je leur ai précisé que je voulais valider la trajectoire de AA# 77, le B-757 du 11 Septembre 2001, ils m’ont écrit, “We are not in the business of validaitig or invalidaiting hypotheses.” et n’ont plus donné suite.
Ma question est simple: si je book un vol chez vous, est ce que pourrais essayer de comprendre si un pilote de C-172 (voir note de pas bas de page ci dessous) qui n’a jamais mis les pieds dans le cockpit d’un liner, aurais pu l’amener, en effet de sol a de 450 kts pour aboutir dans une des facades du Pentagone?
Merci d’avance pour toute votre attention a cette demande.
Fly safe,
—Adam Shaw
FAA CFIMEI, EASA CRI(A) qualifié Montagne roue/glacier, voltige avancée)
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html
« The last known altitude reported for AA77 was 7000 feet. And travelled 33 miles in 5 minutes. Thats 6.6 miles per minute or 396 knots (Update: FDR data shows 325 knots average airspeed. 9/11 Commission Report is inaccurate). Then the aircraft began a 330 degree spiraling dive, leveling at 2200 feet to accelerate to the Pentagon while continuing descent. He started the maneuver at 7000 feet, 396 knots, dove almost 5000 feet within a 330 degree turn and covered 5 miles in about 3 minutes. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, the final impact speed was 530 mph. Update: FDR is now available and the 9/11 report is inaccurate in terms of impact speed.
So lets take an avg speed throughout the dive of 430 knots (7 miles/min). We know a standard rate turn is 2 mins for 360 degrees. So lets say he completed the turn in just under 2 minutes. Since we dont know bank angles or speed. That means he was descending at better than 2500 fpm dropping almost 5000 feet only gaining 30 knots. No problem for guys like you and me, but for Hani? We’ll get to him later…
Once this maneuver was completed, without going into a graveyard spiral, he started to pull out of the descent at 2200 feet and accelerated only 30 knots more at full power to 460 knots in a descent from 2200 feet to the pentagon in about a minute (Whats Vmo at sea level for a 757? Flap speed? Since it looks like he may have found the flap handle only accelerating 60 knots from 7000 feet, the from 2200 feet at full power). AA77 crossed the highways, knocking down light poles, entered ground effect, didnt touch the lawn and got a 44 foot high target (Tail height of 757) into a 77 foot target completely, without overshooting or bouncing off the lawn, or spreading any wreckage at 460 knots. With a 33 foot margin for error. Wow, impressive. Takes a real steady hand to pull that off. I know it would take me a few tries to get it so precise, especially entering ground effect at those speeds. Any slight movement will put you off 50 feet very quickly. Im sure we all would agree.
So, who pulled off this stunt?
Hani Hanjour. Reported to have 600TT and a Commercial Certificate (see quotes right margin). Hani tried to get checked out in a 172 a few weeks prior at Freeway Airport in MD. Two seperate CFI’s took Hani up to check him out. Baxter and Conner found that Hani had trouble controlling and landing a 172 at 65 knots. Bernard, the Chief CFI, refused to rent him the 172. I have instructed many years. I have soloed students in 172’s when i had 300 hours as a CFI. How anyone could not control a 172 at 600TT and a Commercial is beyond me. Flight Schools keep going till you « get it » if you are a bit rusty, and then rent you the plane. They are in business to make money after all. .right? The Chief CFI basically refused any further lessons and basically told him to get lost. All this can be confirmed through google searches.
Later, a week after Sept 11. Bernard, the Chief CFI, made a statement saying, « although Hani was rejected to rent a 172, i have no doubt he could have hit the pentagon. » What?? Bernard, who didnt even fly with Hani, doesnt know the maneuver involved, where the plane hit, the speeds, etc etc.. says he has no doubts that he could hit the pentagon? Sure, my grandma could hit the pentagon. How about looking into the maneuver before making that statement? He made that statement while the pentagon was still smoking for petes sake. A bit of monday morning quarterbacking if you ask me. A common theme among inexperienced pilots. This also can be verified via google searches.
So, to sum up. Hani Hanjour, took a 757, with zero time in type, did the maneuver described above, a 400 knot 330 degree sprialing dive at 2500 fpm, only gaining 30 knots, then 30 knots more descending from 2200 feet at full power, with a very steady hand as to not overshoot or hit the lawn, inside ground effect, at 460 knots impact speed, but was refused to rent a 172 cause he couldnt land it at 65 knots? C’mon… sounds like a bad B movie. »
LOL